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STOP destroying economy!!-- REAL house price -- Q1 , Q2 and Q3 only |

Published in Spain - Financial analysis - 33 - 26 May 17 13:16

Ive been waiting to do this calculations 30 days, I thought people were going to stop selling things under their price after 2 weeks more or less but it has become worse so I decided to do this.
I will calculate the price of Q1, Q2 and Q3 houses to get some profit after the first month you have the companies:

http://i.imgur.com/xfekeXX.jpg
So lets start with the maths :):
(I will calculate everything if the workers salary is 0.03 g, price of workers in Spain and Brazil for example and some calculations will be rounded for your comfort)

Q1 Houses --- (without any bonus)
    You need 10 gold to buy the company and a Q5 raw company thats 35 goldYou make a house per 4.5 days with 8 workers (4 for house company and 4 for raw company) thats 6.6 houses (lets say 7) every monthWorkers will cost 1.8 gold for all the month
So you need to get 36.8 gold in 30 days with 7 houses - thats more or less 5.25 gold per Q1 house

Q1 Houses----(100% bonus) - Production is 0.22 Q1 house 
    You need 10 gold to buy the company and a Q5 raw company, thats 35 goldYou make a house per 2.5 days with 4 workers  (2 for house company and 2 for raw company)  thats 12 houses per monthWorkers will cost 1.8 for all the month
So you need to get 36.8 gold in 30 days selling 12 houses - thats 3 gold per Q1 house

Q1 houses price has to be between 3 gold - 5.1 gold to recover your investmen in 1 month. Price right now its between 1.8 gold - 2 gold.....

Q2 Houses ----- ( without any bonus)
    You need a Q1 house company and to build the Q2 company plus a Q5 raw company and a Q3 raw company thats 65 goldYou make a house per 2.5 days with 10 workers (5 workers for house company and 5 for raw companies) thats 12 houses per monthWorkers will cost 3.6 gold for all the month
So you need to get 68.6 gold in 30 days with 12 houses - thats 5.8 gold per Q2 house

Q2 Houses ----- ( 100% bonus) - Production is 0.24 Q2 house
    You need a Q2 house company plus a Q5 raw company and a Q3 raw company thats 65 goldYou make a house per 1.5 days with 6 workers (3 for house company and 3 for raw company) thats 20 houses per monthWorkers will cost 3.6 for all the month
So you need to get 68.6 gold in 30 days with 20 houses - Thats 3.4 gold per Q2 house

Q2 houses price has to be between  3.4 gold - 5.8 gold to recover your investment in 1 month. Price right now its between 2 gold -2.5 gold....

Q3 Houses ----- (without any bonus)
    You need a Q3 house company plus 2 Q5 raw companies and a Q1 raw company thats 163 goldYou make a house per 2 days with 12 workers (6 for house company and 6 for raw company) thats 15 houses per monthWorkers will cost 5.4 gold for all the month
So you need 168.4 gold in 30 days with 15 houses - thats 11.22 gold per Q3 house

Q3 Houses -----(100% bonus) - Production is 0.26 Q3 house
    You need a Q3 house company plus 2 Q5 raw companies and a Q1 raw company thats 163 goldYou make a house per day with 6 workers (3 for house company and 3 for raw company) thats 30 houses per monthWorkers will cost 5.4 gold for all the month
So you need 168.4 gold in 30 days with 30 houses - thats 5.6 gold per Q3 house

Q3 houses price has to be between 5.6 gold - 11.2 gold to recover your investment in 1 month. Price right now its between 2.8 gold -3.5 gold....

As we see people is selling houses under their real price, Q3 houses price could be lower because you can get them in missions but anywat its too low...  So pls stop selling houses under their real price, YOU ARE LOSING MONEY!

https://buscandocasaenmexico.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/construyendo-tu-casa-espacio-san-isidro.jpg


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Comments (33)

26 May 17 13:18
Sultan Haydar Bas

it is about event rewards i think :/

26 May 17 13:18
SEAG

desde luego

26 May 17 13:18
Kira

Pole

26 May 17 13:19
upppss

you cant expect back investment in 1 month

26 May 17 13:19
Ragn0

No se lo digas a nadie, que así las compro baratas =)

26 May 17 13:24
Ensaimado

@upppss you may expect back investment in 1 month lol....... food and guns have more or less a good price but house price right now is a shit @Sultan they only give Q3 houses in rewards, it s not a reward problem

26 May 17 13:32
pamadapa

-VOTADO- la gente suele tener esa costumbre, producen y luego venden sin hacer cuentas y otros tambien utilizan sus multis para produycir, por lo que se abaratan costos y aquel que juega limpio no puede competir. Si de algo me he dado cuenta en estos juegos es que lo unico que vale es invertir en lograr mejor fuerza ;)

26 May 17 13:33
upppss

hmm Why not then expect back investment in 7 days, some industries are more profitable, some not, q3 house reward is problem too, I get q3 house on master event 3 days in row, so I no need to buy it for weeks, q1 and q2 I buying on market because are cheap and no need to invest in q1-q2 house companies

26 May 17 13:33
Vlad

he say what your monthly cost is, so thats the price to recover your monthly cost. No the investment on companies.

26 May 17 13:35
Pitufina

y el español yo también quiero entender que dice

26 May 17 13:37
Ensaimado

@upppss I know that problem for the Q3 house but even so what do you expect a Q1 house for 1 gold ? People use to sell things cheaper and cheaper if they see that they are not selling and that s the problem, they are not selling because the game has just started. And recovering your investment in 30 days is the optimum time

26 May 17 13:49
upppss

ofc every market function on same old way: offer and demand, some guys dont understand that and even selling under production price, and for houses most people are happy with 1 house (q3 house get on master event) so q1 and q2 houses are so hard to sell and nobs are not patient :D

26 May 17 13:52
El Pistolero

v14

26 May 17 13:53
Ensaimado

@upppss that s the problem, nobs are not patient

26 May 17 14:05
HaaKHaaK

Dumb calculation! Supply and demand are the most important issues :P

26 May 17 14:28
Ensaimado

@HaakHaak if all the people sell at the same price buyers have to buy at that price

26 May 17 14:30
Macolar

People cant calculate how much they pay to make house or anything else for that matter... thats what is stupid xD

26 May 17 14:35
Kxero

lol useless art. wrong and no idea about economy sistem....

26 May 17 14:49
Ensaimado

@Macolar I think you dont understant what I was saying but okay... @kxero que tengo que saber de la economia para calcular al precio al que hay que vender una casa para recuperar tu inversion en un mes? Explicate

26 May 17 16:02
Kxero

Se toma el caso optimo de 100% bono 0.22, Inversion 35 golds. La Casa Q1 (2400 raw) la haces en 3 dias en donde utilizas solo 3 empleos (2 de casa y 1 de mat prima) El resto es produccion como administrador, que no se considera en el costo directo de producir.... En resumen tu casa Q1 para producirla gastas 3 empleos a 40-50 cc....segun el cambio no llegas a 0.7-0.9 gold de costo directo de produccion, entonces todo sobre eso es ganancia o retorno de la inversion. Creer que tu retorno sera en 1 mes es estar loco... un simple jugador no ha generado mas de 50 golds - 20 gastados en subir el tg, crees que en 1 mes va a gastar solo en 4 casas q1 12-20 golds segun tus precios, es simplemente absurdo....Al final con ganancia del 100% vendiendo a 1.8-2 golds, con 1 gold de ganancia necesitas vender 35 casas para recuperar inversion, osea 80 dias, a eso agregas un 10-20% extra y reduces los dias!

26 May 17 17:00
Ensaimado

@kxero en ningun lado sale un precio disparatado por una casa es mas si te parece mucho 3golds por una casa q1 es que este debe ser tu primer juego de este estilo, yo he calculado unos precios decentes para las casas y tus calculos no se de donde te los has sacado, pero estan totalmente mal

26 May 17 17:45
Kxero

@Ensaimado pues veras que no sabes mucho, te lo dejo ahi, tuve 5q1 y 5q2 de casas, no me vas a contar como se produce y calcula!.. Por cierto recuperare mi inversion en los proximos 7 dias ;) y tengo todo un mes de produccion vendido..... Podras ser viejo pero de gestion de produccion y evaluacion de un mercado no tienes idea.... toma un curso de lo mas basico en youtube VAN y TIR por si te suenan.

27 May 17 00:38
Jukax

El problema está en gastar empleados en una calidad Q1 cuando perfectamente con autoconsumo sacas una casa cada 4 días y le medio por 90 de energía. Ahí si tienes esa tasa de retorno. Meter empleados tanto en esa manufactura como en su materia prima es lo que no te hace competitivo. Eso sin tener en cuenta que 30 días para recuperar la inversión de 35g es una locura ya que la raw tiene un ritmo totalmente distinto. En estos casos no se puede pensar que todo el mundo use empleados, quiera recuperar su inversión en un mes, o pague 25g, para suministrar una Q1.

27 May 17 09:13
Joerx

0,22 production 1 manager work + 1 employee = 0,44 a day raw work as manager + 1 employee x3 days ----- 6 wages x 45 cc (I pay 45 ron) = 270 ron costs at gold rate for ron that is 1,35 gold cost to build a q1 house (that is slightly under but i rounded up the works needed) so any price over 1,35 gold is profit and no, one investment doesn t need to return in 30 days

27 May 17 10:48
DictadorLuthor

tas bien pirata para empezar tienes que sacar el beneficio de sacar una casa q1 que es para que los trabajadores ganen mas si la casa te sale mas cara de lo que vale tu trabajo no tiene ningun caso comprar una casa ya que pierdes gold seria muy estupido por eso el valor de las casas se acostumbra al valor de lo que gana un trabajador

27 May 17 10:51
DictadorLuthor

aparte quien le da a sus trabajadores 0.03 gold por dia es un robo en 30 dias que trabajen son 0.9 gold seguramente compraran tus casas a 3 golds cada semana si ni siquiera sale para el mes segun tu dudo que alguien acepte 0.03 gold al dia

27 May 17 21:02
Kxero

este man no tiene idea de economia!! xD...... mas simple descripcion imposible!

27 May 17 21:26
Bohemias

That is a lost cause... you will see.

28 May 17 00:36
Hitman79

En que beneficia esto a los Visa 💳

28 May 17 01:57
mac1990

hahahah cry me a river.. prices are good now lets keep them like they are or even lower them a little bit

28 May 17 04:44
Ensaimado

@dictadorluthor los empleados cuestan eso por que no sube mas el precio del trabajo, ahi yo no puedo meter mano, oferta/demanda

28 May 17 06:36
Anonymous Hero

I produce q1 house and work for myself, it costs me nothing.

28 May 17 06:44
FranConejo

Nunca usaré empleados en calidades inferiores a Q4. Dependiendo de si el mercado lo permite, puedes considerarlo en q3, pero eso encarece el producto.