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- Political debates and analysis - 35 - 27 Aug 17 14:57
Hello Everyone.Â
As I see Propaganda From someone in Spain GOV member works hard, And I want to expllane first of all to Spanish people, what haapened.Â
As you know,1 month Ago Aegis got 4 Trial members, Spain, Romania, Slovenia and Portugal.Â
As usually when someone whats to join Aegis, it country gets 2 month Trial membership ( it is written in our charter) Â But, as We had good cooperation with Spain and Romania before 1 month too, they got 1 month trial membership.Â
Now, 1 month is over. What we got?Â
My opinion is that for That 1 month, Spain and Romania were still good allys, but not Team members, Team what is called - Alliance. Team When 10 men are working like 1. I never blame Romania or Spain, that they did not do their job, But thay always could more, always.Â
I can not publish there all messages, from meeting, but I will publish there mine messages, As It was my opinion, and I can repeat same there.Â
Kaatinga (Georgia CP)-Yesterday at 10:37 PM
I think 1 month is not enough for trial membership. we were cooperation before 1 month too, but be member of team is another work. we had some problems in the beggining. missunderstood, some fails in operations, battles and so on. now we are working goof together. but we startet it about some days ago. so, i think it is better to pro long trial membership for both countries, and vote for it after 1 month. Georgia will vote for that
Kaatinga (Georgia CP)-Yesterday at 10:42 PM
becouse for me it was not enough. I had not feeling that we were team, for this month. good relation is one point, but be member of team, is another. I think we begin to be team just few days ago. so thats why I need more time. if we continue like this, next days my answer will be clear yes. but not today. I will not vote YES and also will not vote NO
 Kaatinga (Georgia CP)-Yesterday at 10:53 PM
i will not vote yes. just for info. we had 2 month for trial. but we changed it for 2 countries. I respect both, and they need us, and we need them, and our relations is not only ,,need it is more. but... be member of team, is another poiont and I think we need more time. yes I remember what was 1 month ago. but all I said is my position and I will not change it.
 Kaatinga (Georgia CP)-Yesterday at 11:26 PM
Actually I can not understand why you are talking about Spain, when I said both countries : )For that moment, I have nothing against them, but for desicion, I need more time. Simply. And I think, all I said was clear. If you need more words and it is not enough, you should wait for me next 10-20 minutes, to write it, becouse of my english But, I think, my position was clear.
Kaatinga (Georgia CP)-Yesterday at 11:51 PM
I will not vote Yes, I will not Vote No. I want them to be with us, but I want time, To make finally desicion about it
kaatinga (Georgia CP)-Today at 12:00 AM
If you want you can call it NO for that moment. : )
Kaatinga (Georgia CP)-Today at 12:02 AM
aham. : ) I am Voting NO today. And I explaned why.
That is all my messages, What I wrote in meeting.Â
If you think That I made that Decision becouse of ,,I Hate Spain,, it is your Choice, To beleive it.Â
It is your Choice, what you will Trust, your eyes, or Someones Propaganda.
To be honest, Sometimes I do not like even  some Full members work (I am not talking about Trial members now) And I am talking about it Clear. So  + 1 month, was nothing. I just wanted team in our alliance. And I newer Hate Spain, Even when I got Spamm message from some Spain soldiers some Days Ago, Even not Now, When some of you, are writtening Bullshit on feed.
But, people, you always have Choice, And you will Choose, What to beleive, and what to do!
Spain had choice, to be with us, as Trial member and then full member, or leave. What Spain (actually Frida) Joined you all know very well ...Â
I am not happy with That Deccision, but I respect it.Â
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Comments (35)
27 Aug 17 15:01
SBazdarTsilo for CP
27 Aug 17 15:01
Lilith:/ loser article
27 Aug 17 15:01
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27 Aug 17 15:01
SEAGMastil
27 Aug 17 15:02
JukaxStop lying, just one time, Katinga. Im tired of shit... You blamed, insulted and betrayed our trust this months. You insulted our gob and citizens... Have fun alone with your ego
27 Aug 17 15:02
Makarovhaha propaganda :D seams liek spain is not a puppy
27 Aug 17 15:03
Carlsberglet it go girl dont worry come over here :*
27 Aug 17 15:03
rainyday13hahahah this is comedy .. lol
27 Aug 17 15:04
promadeci I threw up while reading first raw
27 Aug 17 15:05
KrstaVBIf you ask me i saw more Spainish soilders in some AEGIS battles then Gurgians soilders...
Spain need to be part of AEGIS more the Gurgians.
27 Aug 17 15:05
MukhtarI just come for say this: AEGIS have not passed Spain s trial month.
27 Aug 17 15:06
DonGVIVA CHILE
27 Aug 17 15:06
Frida K What Spain (actually Frida) Joined you all know very well ...
Kaatinga, man, I am Spanish MoFA, I represent Spain. So..just LOL
27 Aug 17 15:09
JokesI understand your opinion for NO, but i think Spain has a choice to choose its reply too.
27 Aug 17 15:09
Ulysses Grant@jokes ofc, and we respect that without any resentment. As AEGIS, we had to go with our charter even if all other countries voted yes for you
27 Aug 17 15:32
eMaced0nkrle you surely are true yle
27 Aug 17 15:34
Franky Four Fingersif people starts to talk about internal affairs in public, You know that something going on.
27 Aug 17 15:39
Corvus CoraxWell if nothing, since I m in alliance channel I can only say that I think Kaatinga is the most active member from my point of view and if someone can criticize others, its him. I have nothing to say against Spain, just a good luck people , and don t let others comment now because they event don t know the story, now all are your friends. Think about it.
27 Aug 17 16:02
DonaldTrampThis is what spain people know. We do not allow humiliation. We are strong, we are not a puppy.
27 Aug 17 16:17
JokesWe are organized. You just come to our discount, always there 30-40 plp In our country chat, we have fresh news about spain, and where shall we fight and gvmt chanel.
If you think we are a band of ducks, you should teach us how to do it.
27 Aug 17 16:58
Pablochhuman trash found
27 Aug 17 17:21
Andy Warhol@frida so now you have time to cofffe together? :)
27 Aug 17 20:10
kingkong@frida. what do you like for breakfast?
27 Aug 17 20:18
El Gran EduardoNo entendi, los friendzonearon? xD ahora España es neutral? :v
27 Aug 17 22:08
KxeroEn resumen, españa sean nuestras mascotas y hagan todo lo que les diga o seran trial por otro mes!..... Pero como no queremos ser borrados les mirare el ombligo por un tiempo asi no se van a los neutrales a pesar de ser humillados y mirados en menos.
27 Aug 17 22:27
Dipa NusantaraJajajajaja. Esto es por lo que españa es conocido, nadie los quiere de aliados, son inaguantables palabras de muchos ex b6
28 Aug 17 01:09
espanheEspaña no deberÃa tolerar ésto. Abandonemos AEGIS y que hagan ellos solos su guerra.
28 Aug 17 02:11
Frida K@AndyWarhol, yeah, now I have time for coffees.
@kingkong for breakfast at least 1 L of coffee :D

28 Aug 17 05:55
Boina VerdeAlliances are based on trust. You can not say that you need more time to think. That reasoning would never fly with your couple. You can not say that you are semi-pregnant either.
In your replies that you posted you do not give any reasoning nor benchmark.
Spain can not wait another month to see if you wake up in a better mood.
Any prolongation of a trial period should have been announced, discussed and judged on its own merits. It can not be subject to your personal interpretation of sometimes it appears we are not a team. It is rather normal that a newcomer needs time to adapt and it usually work better to offer them advice and teach them good practices.. than claiming something that you have not even assessed.
You should have also compared behaviour with existing members.
I can not judge as I am a simple soldier but what is clear to me is that your failure to provide any arguments nor comparison to real facts in that meeting ....could only trigger such a reaction.
So if you wanted to keep Spain in AEGIS you should have not opted for futile provocations and less without providing any reason.
If you wanted to get rid off Spain, well you could have been easily less clumsy than that. You could have waited for a casus belli or a fail.
To sum-up: my full support for the Spanish government and I would like to express my gratitude and appreciation for many players from Georgia. However I would lie if I were to say that I am impressed by the performance of the current CP from Georgia.
28 Aug 17 11:46
PinguinoatrincheradoMadre de dios, lo que hay que leer.
Por lo demás, concuerdo con @Mukhtar, va a ser que no han pasado el mes de prueba de España. Buena suerte y hasta más ver.
29 Aug 17 11:57
Agresor ImpuneEspaña crea IMPERIO, no se acopla a ellos.