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Published in Hungary - Financial analysis - 21 - 03 Aug 18 14:55

Dear readers!

I write this article, because today I got a permaban from Admins, and when I returned, the golds were revoked from my account. I also got this messeage:

Hello Jaca,

A 4-h temporal ban has been applied to your account as we identified many infractions related to your account involving one-way gold donations from smaller accounts.

As it is stated in the rules:
Exploiting other players and being exploited is strictly forbidden and could lead to all types of punishments including permanent bans and financial penalties for both exploited and exploiting accounts, no matter do they share same IP and are different persons.
Administration could find as exploit any of the following : working for minimal wages without any other appropriate payment in gold or items; one-way donation from one to another accounts consisting items or so.

After reviewing carefully all the donations and transactions between you and the smaller accounts, there was clear evidence of exploitation and so we decided to apply weighted punishments to all accounts and also remove the illegal gold from your account.

If you have questions about the sanctions stablished, you can contact us in the support system:
http://www.edomgame.com/support/

If you have questions about the rules, you can check the lastest updates here:
https://www.edominations.com/en/rules

Regards,

XXX
eDominations Moderator

Now i want to explain those transactions.

1. Support system
I am the CP of Hungary since April. In the past weeks I decided to use the country golds for something useful, and started a support system for the Hungarians. The details can be read here (in hungarian).

So, I give golds to the players
1. as a loan
2. as a tax refund
3. for supporting their weapon industry (+10% refund after weapon companies)
4. for supporting their adrenaline industry (20% refund after adrenaline compani investments)

I also receive golds after the loan refunds, players need to send back minimum 20% of the total loan weekly. I write up every transactions from the past 4 months, the table could be checked here, I also publish it in all of my hungarian articles.

2. Common org
At the end of March we started to build a common org. I am the manager of it, and I pay the products weekly to 16 hungarian citizen + the government in every week. The method is the following: The more golds they give for the build, the more products they get (for example if someone invested 50 gold, he get 200 Q5 airs weekly, if an other player invested 150, he got 600).
I pay those airs in every week. From 1st August I also receive the taxes from them. Everything is written in this (new) and in this (old) sheet. I also publish them in all of my hungarian articles.

So, as you might see, thats I have many transactions from other players. I try to build a good and strong hungarian community there, but if the reward is a tempban and country gold revoking for it, maybe i choosed a wrong game.


Dear Admins and Moderators, please give back the golds.


Update: I got back 270 golds and this 2 messeages:

Thank you for contacting us. Personally, Ive read that article and things are not actually the same as the reason for your punishment. We may believe you that you werent aware of some donations, because you are country president and you have some kind of national projects. But, few of the accounts that donated golds to your account are multie accounts and we considered only those transactions as illegal ones. In such actions of mutual investments, from the beginning of the game, we advised people to contacts us through support, tell us what they are planning to do and with who they are making mutual investments. Then, if you get a positive response from us, those investments wont be considered as boosting. In this case, while we have proofs about accounts being multies, we must consider all their one-way transactions to other players as a boost.

Kind regards,
XXX



You got back golds as compensation where we found 1 of the accounts is not multie actually. For others we have proofs they are. At first total illegal golds you received at your account were around 900 golds and because you didnt have enough golds at accounts, we needed to remove Field Hospitals. Since you received 270 golds back which were not considered as boost, its all compensated now and we are not going to compensate any more golds.

I can understand you are trying to make national projects but you need to be aware that people use their multies to transfer golds for those projects. You should always contact us about such projects before doing them.

Kind regards,
XXX

And when I ask which are the characters who are boosted me, I got them:
https://www.edominations.com/en/profile/17395
https://www.edominations.com/en/profile/41262
https://www.edominations.com/en/profile/41263
https://www.edominations.com/en/profile/41282
https://www.edominations.com/en/profile/42683
https://www.edominations.com/en/profile/42686

Maybe its okay, they sent me some golds for a project or something. I need to know from every player that he/she is a multi or not? And how the hell should I remember why they sent me golds 2 months ago, and where I used this ammount? 

So, the steps are:
1. Run for CP
2. Help your community
3. Start and book projects
4. Pay the troubles that the others multies caused from your own budget

Maybe know what will be the 5th. Bye.


Regards,

Jaca
CP of Hungary

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Comments (21)

03 Aug 18 15:00
Comandantee

Giv gold back, ples!

03 Aug 18 15:01
Jaca

Well, I also just realized that I lost 2 from my Field Hospitals... Thank you.

03 Aug 18 15:02
BosniakTurk

Jaca is a country president who works hard for his community. This is unacceptable. Give his money back and support his efforts!

03 Aug 18 15:03
Navy Seal

give gold back, es :/ You know what I did when was discount and I was going to loan gold? I sent ticket against myself and wrote there that I will loan gold from some players and I will return them back... :))))) Always better to inform Admins about your actions if it is about many transactions

03 Aug 18 15:04
JeFke

I support. unjustified blocking

03 Aug 18 15:06
Judy Alvarez

How dare you dear mod! Gib his hard earned golds back+more.golds for compensation!

03 Aug 18 15:08
Kinghtartur2

and this is not the only case i heard of... also mods gave temp/perma ban and gold removal to other player, later was shown that was mistake, ban was removed, but gold was never returned. Coincidence? :thinking:

03 Aug 18 15:13
Primarch Guilliman

i hope managent will check it detailed and if everything is okay they will give. i had a similar problem.im still waiting for management to pay my gold back.

03 Aug 18 15:15
Kinghtartur2

new admins update: how to remove gold from game? simply, just remove it from players accounts, proved guilty or not, gold must disappear :P

03 Aug 18 15:27
Deadlija

You have a response at support. And yes, listen to kaatinga...

03 Aug 18 16:00
Jaca

Ilija: Kaatinga dont have any political activity. I am a Country President. A little bit different, right? Every information is in my articles, I think that google should translate it well.

03 Aug 18 17:00
Deadlija

Maybe its not... http://prntscr.com/kegxk6

03 Aug 18 18:42
Bikkin

Since when is the CP responsible with his personal assets for any wrongdoings of other people concerning the country-s assets? If our CP received illegal funds - albeit not with his knowledge - Admin should remove those funds from the country-s treasury not from the CP-s personal wealth.

03 Aug 18 22:16
soma1976

dafuq?

03 Aug 18 23:04
deepdiver

Since when is the CP responsible with his personal assets for any wrongdoings of other people concerning the country-s assets? If our CP received illegal funds - albeit not with his knowledge - Admin should remove those funds from the country-s treasury not from the CP-s personal wealth.

04 Aug 18 01:02
Shalltear

I suggest that we all stop playing for at least 1 day. So then they might change their mind. They are robbing us.

04 Aug 18 05:06
stiner

skandal...

04 Aug 18 05:40
GOOD BYE GAME

Jaca(+1905)

04 Aug 18 06:11
El Tarlo

Jaca has done great job and i think he helped a lot his community with that BUT admins should be informed about that kind of transactions in order to check for multies at these kind of projects ... BTW , if anyone is interested to start projects to help the community with state gold/cc .... he must be careful because many multies might appear and cause trouble to goverment !!!!!!!

04 Aug 18 06:32
Bikkin

Admin give back Jaca all he had and remove fake gold from dHungary-s treasury instead! This would be fair. Your current solution is not.

04 Aug 18 23:23
Delacroix

Shit happens dude.